Paris Jackson‘s childhood was anything but conventional. In the years after her father Michael Jackson‘s death, she revealed how discovering the truth about her mother Debbie Rowe changed their relationship.

The 28-year-old musician appeared on the August 12 episode of the Call Her Daddy podcast, where she revealed how she became curious about her mother’s identity.

“I remember, you know, kind of asking about it when I was probably around, like, 10 or 11 and the answers I got were, you know, sufficient to me,” Paris said. “Just like, ‘Oh, what’s her name?’ I got told her name, and I’m like, ‘All right, cool,’ like, [I] moved on.”

Her father died in 2009 when she was only 11, and it took about four years for her to really “connect” with Rowe. Paris’ grandmother Katherine Jackson raised Michael’s three kids, including brothers Prince, 29, and Bigi, 24, after his passing.

Michael and Rowe were married from 1996 until 2000, and she was the biological mother to both Paris and Prince — Bigi was born via an anonymous surrogate. Rowe waived her parental rights in 2001, and received an $8.5 million settlement from him in the divorce.

“We connected when I was about 15 and then really started getting closer towards the end of my teen years and things like that,” Paris added. “I remember coming downstairs, and she was in the living room with my grandma. I came in, and I was just like, ‘Hey, mom.’ And she was like, ‘Hi.’ I sat down, we talked for a second, and then we went out for the day and just hung out.”

Paris revealed that she walked into the relationship without “expectations,” so it “created this really cool space for something organic to just blossom.” She now describes their mother-daughter bond as “more refined.”

Prince does not have the same relationship with his mother like his younger sister. He’s rarely spoken about the topic publicly, but did acknowledge to Rolling Stone in 2017 that Paris “needed a mother figure” after their father’s death and her stint in rehab.

Paris supported Rowe through her breast cancer battle in 2016, and her mom raved about her daughter’s support to Entertainment Tonight.

“She’s amazing,” Rowe praised “her rock” Paris to the media outlet. “She’s been with me the whole time … I can’t tell you how much I love her.”

For Paris, what began as a childhood question about her mother ultimately became a deeply meaningful bond, one that grew naturally into the relationship she has with Rowe today.