45 minutes ago, ajalkane said:

I'm trying to move my gaming to Linux for various reasons...

Regarding GTA, it seems to work fine mostly. But opening in-game Social Club the mouse cursor is not visible. Does anyone have a workaround for this? It's quite annoying to be honest.

If you're on Steam, just use the Steam Overlay to locate your cursor, exit it and move it until you finally hover over what you need.
If you're just using it to join friends, don't bother with it and use the ingame Friends submenu in the Pause Menu to join/invite friends or accept their invites. Works wonders.
You'll be able to see your friends just fine in here.

Edit 2: The bug with the cursor not being visible in the Social Club overlay in Linux has been present for at least 4 years, since that's how long I've been playing GTA on Linux. Probably something to do with the fact that if I recall correctly, the overlay is built on CEF, which Wine does not play too nice with.

Edited July 12, 2024 by iCarbonZz_
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42 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Are you using the latest version of Proton or are you using something else to get it running?

Latest version, tried also the experimental version.

I guess I have to do the overlay/alt+tab trick to navigate mouse cursor to correct place. I mainly use social club for messaging or accepting session invites.

Hopefully one of these days this annoyance is fixed though

1 minute ago, ajalkane said:

Latest version, tried also the experimental version.

I guess I have to do the overlay/alt+tab trick to navigate mouse cursor to correct place. I mainly use social club for messaging or accepting session invites.

Hopefully one of these days this annoyance is fixed though

Yeah for messages there is no bypass but you can accept game invites through the in-game menu fortunately so you don't have to put up with it TOO much

5 hours ago, ajalkane said:

I'm trying to move my gaming to Linux for various reasons...

Regarding GTA, it seems to work fine mostly. But opening in-game Social Club the mouse cursor is not visible. Does anyone have a workaround for this? It's quite annoying to be honest.

Another quick couple notes.

If you are using a "stable" release distro (Ubuntu/Debian based mostly) you could potentially get better performance if you use the flatpak version of steam/lutris due to it being able to use a newer version of Mesa compared to the system. I think AMD GPUs are effected more by this than NIVIDIA but I could be wrong.

If you are using KDE or GNOME which are on wayland you should have buttery smooth frames with no need to fiddle with things. If you are still on a DE using X11 (XFCE, MATE, Cinnamon) you will need to tweak some settings to be able to get buttery smooth frames which I could help you out with if needed.

2 hours ago, Lost_Warrior said:

If you are using a "stable" release distro (Ubuntu/Debian based mostly) you could potentially get better performance if you use the flatpak version of steam/lutris due to it being able to use a newer version of Mesa compared to the system. I think AMD GPUs are effected more by this than NIVIDIA but I could be wrong.

I think the performance difference stems from the simple fact that GTA V is an NVIDIA optimized title, hence why AMD GPUs perform worse on it. Personally, I tried to run it on a GTX 660Ti and it almost ran better than my RX 560 that I used to have. But then again, the drivers restricted me to X11 (since the 660Ti is legacy, 470.xx branch), and it was suffering from a bug which some NVIDIA graphics cards have, causing the game to crash if you open the Graphics settings in Online, saying that you do not have a graphics card. But I think it's good advice to use Flatpak on "stable" distros, or just, in the case of Ubuntu, use this https://launchpad.net/~kisak/+archive/ubuntu/kisak-mesa for the most bleeding edge Mesa drivers (dunno what the equivalent would be on let's say, Fedora or something). Affects only Intel/AMD graphics cards though.

KDE Plasma 6 has this feature called "Shake Cursor" under Settings > Accessibility where upon shaking your mouse the cursor grows in size.

While game's full screen, activate SC with Home, alt-tab (game minimizes) and alt-tab again (game returns) and shake your mouse... Kinda janky way to get your mouse cursor but whatever works for you.

10 hours ago, Lost_Warrior said:

If you are using KDE or GNOME which are on wayland you should have buttery smooth frames with no need to fiddle with things. If you are still on a DE using X11 (XFCE, MATE, Cinnamon) you will need to tweak some settings to be able to get buttery smooth frames which I could help you out with if needed.

I'm using stock Ubuntu 24.04 so it is X11. Also with the official Valve .deb install.

The FPS is good in single player, but leaves a bit to desire in online (50-70). I've tried this and that to get it better without success, so if there's any hints, I'm interested to try. The FPS is nevertheless good enough as it is so I'm not gonna do anything crazy to try making it better

2 hours ago, Lost_Warrior said:

I think Ubuntu by default uses wayland so you shouldn't notice any weird frame timings/stutters. You should of installed it via your package manager and not the .deb from the website as having your package manager manage everything is the intended way. You could see if the flatpak version gives you any performance increase as it will be using a newer version of Mesa.

Ubuntu starts using Wayland by default on 24.10. But I guess I could try with Wayland session manually if it works better.

Yeah you're right, maybe I should uninstall Steam and install it from package manager. Might be more reliable in the long run.

1 hour ago, Taterman said:

I'm using Mint (Cinnamon) on an older PC but it has an SSD at least. How good of a video card do you need decent frames?

I don't know. I have NVidia 3060 Ti now, but I'm quite sure much worse would do ok here. As others have mentioned here, a performant CPU is more important in GTA (Online).

Because AMD GPU's use the embedded open source Radeon drivers which are known to be more stable than NVIDIA's, it's possible performance could be a little better as even for emulation NVIDIA can be hit and miss on Linux. That said, especially because of the way Proton/Wine etc. works, a good CPU will be more important for GTA V and Online.

I've actually never tested GTAO on Linux specifically but I do imagine the performance that can already be dodgy on Windows can be dodgier on Linux. And then you have engines where things run better on Linux  

4 hours ago, Taterman said:

I'm using Mint (Cinnamon) on an older PC but it has an SSD at least. How good of a video card do you need decent frames?

2 hours ago, ajalkane said:

I don't know. I have NVidia 3060 Ti now, but I'm quite sure much worse would do ok here. As others have mentioned here, a performant CPU is more important in GTA (Online).

2 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

Because AMD GPU's use the embedded open source Radeon drivers which are known to be more stable than NVIDIA's, it's possible performance could be a little better as even for emulation NVIDIA can be hit and miss on Linux. That said, especially because of the way Proton/Wine etc. works, a good CPU will be more important for GTA V and Online.

I've actually never tested GTAO on Linux specifically but I do imagine the performance that can already be dodgy on Windows can be dodgier on Linux. And then you have engines where things run better on Linux  

I'm using a 5800X3d and 6800xt on Debian Sid using flatpak steam (Ive used native as well with no issues).

Since I've switched to Linux my experience in GTA has actually been smoother. It feelss like there are less random stutters (but not none).

I'm pretty sure I don't have any decrease is frame rate either. I may have even gained a small handful compared to my windows 10 install I could have to check.

7 hours ago, Lost_Warrior said:

Since I've switched to Linux my experience in GTA has actually been smoother. It feelss like there are less random stutters (but not none).

I'm pretty sure I don't have any decrease is frame rate either. I may have even gained a small handful compared to my windows 10 install I could have to check.

You're not wrong. I tried benchmarking this about 3 years ago and Linux has increased, at least in my case, minimums by up to 10fps. Lost about 1-2FPS for the average though, so, barely noticeable at all.

15 hours ago, ajalkane said:

The FPS is good in single player, but leaves a bit to desire in online (50-70).

Are you playing in public, very populated sessions? If I play solo, I get about 90-120FPS, but if I join a lobby with let's say, 25 other people, I drop down all the way to about 70-80.

12 hours ago, Taterman said:

I'm using Mint (Cinnamon) on an older PC but it has an SSD at least. How good of a video card do you need decent frames?

Edited July 13, 2024 by iCarbonZz_
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For situations when you're stuck loading interiors or stuck in the clouds, the Windows solution was to suspend and resume the game process. In Linux it's similar, send the signals SIGSTOP and SIGCONT, stop and continue respectively, to said process. I'm no master bash script guru so if anyone has one better, this simple bash script will automate the steps:

#!/bin/bash
pkill -19 -x GTA5.exe
sleep 9
pkill -18 -x GTA5.exe

The first line sends the STOP signal to GTA5.exe, the second line waits 9 seconds and the third line sends the CONTINUE signal to GTA5.exe.

Save as "script.sh" or some memorable name, then "chmod +x script.sh" to make the script executable and run the script from the directory with "./script.sh"

Currently I'm running XFCE desktop environment and I have bound the Pause key to that script via Settings > Keyboard > Application Shortcuts.

As for getting stuck "loading" or "initializing," my go to method still works in Windows and Linux - open SC overlay and join a friends session or join a Crew or make another Crew as your Active Crew, and this action should kick you to Character Selection.

1 hour ago, summerblues said:

I'm no master bash script guru so if anyone has one better, this simple bash script will automate the steps:

It's just fine sir. I personally use kill -STOP $(pidof GTA5.exe) and then kill -CONT $(pidof GTA5.exe), but your script works fine as well.
To extreme skeptics out there, this person's script is completely fine and WON'T hack your computer, or whatever concerns you may have (I know it's probably unnecessary in here, but I know that some people like that exist, even those kinds who are scared by "echo Hello".

14 hours ago, ajalkane said:

In public lobbies, yes. I've noticed also that the amount of players in the session seem to affect the FPS quite a bit.

Edited July 14, 2024 by iCarbonZz_

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It's almost two years and GTA Online still doesn't work in Linux. This is ridiculous.

How come the fcking modders get through BattlEye and no one has done similar hack so that we could play on Linux? That would be useful instead of this stupid modding sh*t.